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PostSubject: [Finished] Smeargle   Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:28 pm



Proposed Sets

Set 1 : Hazard according to Smogon
Ability: Own Tempo
Nature: Jolly
Item: Focus Sash
IV spread: 31/31/31/xx/31/31
Hidden Power: rien du tout
Egg Sketch Moves:
- Sticky Web
- Stealth Rock
- Spore
- King's Shield


Set 2 : Doubles
Ability: Own Tempo
Nature: Jolly
Item: Focus Sash
IV spread: 31/31/31/xx/31/31
Hidden Power: rien du tout
Egg Sketch Moves:
- Fake Out
- Follow Me
- King's Shield
- Dark Void


Set 3 : Baton Pass
Ability: Own Tempo
Nature: Jolly
Item: Focus Sash
IV spread: 31/31/31/xx/31/31
Hidden Power: rien du tout
Egg Sketch Moves:
- Quiver Dance
- Baton Pass
- Ingrain
- Spore


Are we doing a competitive Smeargle? If yes, here are options (not necessarily all of them will be bred). If you have other suggestions, feel free to comment. They will be bred at Level 1 and all four moves will be Sketched at Level 1 (using method involving Heart Scales and the cheapest doubles resto in Lumiose - the one with the elemental monkeys).


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:43 pm

I would like having them if you're up for it.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:33 pm

O.O You can actually get all that O.O

(So... much... want O.O)

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:40 am

I'm up for it.

Might take a while since timing is key when sketching with the elemental monkeys in that Lumiose resto. It gets easier with a lot of Focus Sashes, which I can get using my BP.

What do you guys think of the Sketch moves, which ones should I keep or ditch?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:19 am

I know baton pass has been made illegal in regular Smogon, but having one would be neat. I'm not sure, is the fear set a good option for smeargle?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:27 am

The FEAR set is more of a gimmick to be honest. Very situational but effective if predicted correctly. In truth, I have that set, so I'm ok with not Sketching it again.

For the Baton Pass set, what is the moveset? Baton Pass, Quiver Dance, Substitute, and Spore?



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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:38 pm

I think shell smash is also an option. But now that you mention it, not much can pass quiver dance, so that sounds good.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:07 pm

Ok. Cool. I'm editing the set.

What about the Sketch moves of the other two sets?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:57 pm

Definitely Sticky Web over Spikes. Smeargle being out there for that many turns seems hopeful. King's Shield seems pretty interesting, because you can let the sash activate, and if you know he's going to priority to finish you off, just nick him with a -2 Attack, and then click the next hazard. If he kills you your sweeper is clear and if he switches then you get free hazards/sleep. You could incapacitate 2 Pokemon and get hazards up. I really want this now haha.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:01 am

Noted.

For doubles, I'm just going to go for Follow Me.

Should ability be Own Tempo or Moody?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:40 am

Own tempo for both. Doubles has no need for moody (does it?) and it's banned in singles. Shame too, that could make for a cool baton pass set.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:52 pm

Bash, just realized, don't sketch substitute onto the baton pass, sketch ingrain. That sub will be tiny.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:06 pm

Ok for Ingrain.

Perhaps we should make the doubles set Moody. Either ability works in doubles and I don't think there is a ban for that.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:11 pm

I just thought swagger was a thing in doubles. That's your arena.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:13 pm

Like I said, either ability works. Depends I guess, which ability the others are leaning towards. Perhaps Own Tempo gets the edge for Swagger, Teeter Dance, Confuse Ray (from Sableye).
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:49 pm

I should be finished with this soon. I successfully Sketched the Baton Pass set last night (took me most of the evening). The timing for Sketching Baton Pass is tricky, while keeping Smeargle at Level 1 with no experience.

Hatched 2 5IV Smeargles, and lucky enough to have hatched a 6IV as well. In different egg batches of course.



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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:16 pm

Man, I'm so stoked for this Smeargle, I've already been planning my mini baton pass team for battle spot. This, Scolipede, and something else.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Smeargle   Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:17 pm

This is done.
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