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Special or Mixed?
Special
80%
 80% [ 4 ]
Mixed
20%
 20% [ 1 ]
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PostSubject: [Finished] Panpour   Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:22 pm


PANPOUR


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Proposed Sets

Set 1 : Special
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Timid
Item: Water Stone
IV spread: 31/xx/31/31/31/31 if Timid
Hidden Power: aucune puissance cachée
Egg Moves:
- Nasty Plot
- Hydro Pump
- Disarming Voice
- Role Play

Either straightforward special set or a mixed one. Nasty Plot is a must on it as well as Hydro Pump.


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:40 pm

Do Aqua Ring/Tickle over Low Kick.

I think Special is the way to go. In my opinion this is the best of the elemental monkeys to go purely special.

Also you have to get a female now as male is unacceptable :]

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:20 pm

Does hp fire actually get you anything though? The justification for hp grass on Smogon is to hit light stuff like Lanturn, but I see what you mean, grass knot is usually stronger. But hp fire doesn't hit anything harder than the other moves does it?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:52 pm

Probably not. I brought it up as an option in case someone wants it.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:22 pm

Yeah, I'm just trying to save you a little effort.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:30 pm

I think mixed would be great, and also Role Play would be great to have for Doubles purposes.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:52 am

I put up a poll for Special or Mixed. After this poll, there will be another one for the last egg move.

I understand Aqua Ring / Tickle as options for the last egg move since Low Kick / Role Play are tutor moves but I believe some others don't have access to the tutors.

Also, no Hidden Power for this one.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:03 am

Where the option for Sassy?

Also, bash, go ahead with Low Kick Role Play, the other two are defensive moves that are garbage on such a frail Pokémon.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:16 am

Disarming Voice is pretty bad too so we could actually have a poll for the last 2 moves. I'd probably go with Low Kick and Role Play.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:35 am

Low Kick is worse if we end up doing a special set while Role Play falls under a defensive move as well imo. The fact you'll never use any of them makes Tickle/Disarming Voice the best of them imo as Disarming voice although weak is Fairy coverage it otherwise doesnt have, while Tickle can help support a partner more than Role Play would as Role Play isnt so great on such a frail Pokemon either. There is also the tutor thing which I believe exceptions should be made only for very useful moves that the Pokemon must have to operate if tutors ever disappear again or if they have limited options. You dont lose Role Play/Low Kick from not teaching them though you lose the opportunity for Disarming Voice and Tickle which I believe are the best choices for the last 2 EMs.

I can see Sub+NP working pretty well with this thing. Forcing a switch to sub then getting a free NP then continue subbing to avoid taking a hit till you reach Torrent range with an item like Salac/Petaya Berry. Focus Blast/GK/Hydro Pump/Ice Beam is fine for coverage. Dont really feel HP Grass is nedeed. With Focus Blast/Ice Beam I dont think you need to worry about HP Fire either as they hit everything you would want to hit with it.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:29 am

Special set won so Low Kick would not be an option for an egg move. I'll stick with Disarming Voice but for the last slot, it's either Tickle or Role Play.

Can't create a new poll. Blue makes a good case for Tickle, but I still like Role Play.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:35 am

I guess getting something like Parental Bond on here would be cool. Role play is probably better.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Panpour   Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:12 am

This is finished.
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