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PostSubject: [Finished] Froakie   Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:31 am


Froakie



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Set 1 : Mixed
Ability: Protean
Nature: Naive
Item: ???
IV spread: 31/31/30/30/31/30
Hidden Power: Fire
Egg Moves:
-Toxic Spikes
-Water Sport
-Mud Sport
-Mind Reader

The mixed set is the new standard. After ORAS, Greninja was banned for this set, so it's only right we should breed it.

Set 2 : Suicide Lead Hazards
Ability: Protean
Nature: Jolly
Item: Sash or something
IV spread: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Hidden Power: None
Egg Moves:
-Toxic Spikes
-Mud Sport
-Water Sport
-Mind Reader

#TeamBroakie

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:57 am

Let me know if you want my mixed Froakies to save you time on on breeding a 6IV HP mixed set

Naive Protean Froakie(F) 31/31/30/30/31/30 (+Mind Reader, Mud Sport, Toxic Spikes, Water Sport) -Premier Ball- HP Fire-

Naive > Hasty b/c of certain priority moves.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:00 am

Oh yeah, thanks, I meant to put Naïve, I'm usually the one clamoring for it. Also, I think I will take one, I'll catch you sometime.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:16 pm

I already have timid so I vote jolly for selfish reasons

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:18 pm

That's another thing, I have like 4 EV trained timid ones too. Jolly would be a nice divergence.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:34 pm

I still would prefer mixed and special, i never liked physical greninja very much. If everyone else wants jolly tho i don't mind, tbh i don't see why anyone wouldn't just go mixed anyway lol.


also dun be selfish Razz

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:41 pm

Greninja wasn't broken until the mixed set showed up. The special set has definite counters, but there are about 5 or 6 moves on the mixed set that will take down darn near every pokemon in the franchise. I looked once, there's a combination of moves that is not resisted by any pokemon in the game and gets super effective coverage on exactly 75 percent of all pokemon. Plus it gets automatic STAB on everything. That is nuts.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:47 pm

Bunselpower wrote:
Greninja wasn't broken until the mixed set showed up. The special set has definite counters, but there are about 5 or 6 moves on the mixed set that will take down darn near every pokemon in the franchise. I looked once, there's a combination of moves that is not resisted by any pokemon in the game and gets super effective coverage on exactly 75 percent of all pokemon. Plus it gets automatic STAB on everything. That is nuts.  

i'm drinking chansey's tears Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:35 am

You're on a roll Bunsel. Nice!

The first set is Naïve right? Also, I vote for Jolly for Set 2 also for selfish reasons. I have tons of Timid ones already.

Is it safe to assume, with Greninja being popular, that most if not all have already bred a Timid Protean set?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:54 am

Let's not discount ed's domination of this round as well. (But I hear his progress has been stopped by Pokémon shuffle).

Anyway, I don't like making that assumption usually, but I have like 5 fully trained Timid ones, and probably 5 more untrained ones, so if anyone really wants one I will give it to a cloner to pass out at a later date. The egg moves are useless anyway, so you won't be taking a hit.

Also, does anyone care too much if I drop Bestow for one of the sports? And it's not because I like sports in real life, but Bestow has to go through a Delibird, and I really don't fancy chaining that when I can just steal a sport from blue's frog.

This begs the question, mud or water sport? Let the heated debate begin!

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:42 am

Mud sport is fine. They're all pretty useless anyway, especially on Greninja.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:03 am

I'd go mudsport just because...... well............................. its not as pointless as Water sport lol

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:17 am

When Greninja changes to the ground type afterward, it is in fact more useless lol.

These will never be used. It's raining here, so when I get home, I'll look at my boots. If they're only covered in water, I'll do water sport. I'd there's any mud at all, I'll do mud sport.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:18 am

Also, blue, will you be around at any time today for me to get that Froakie?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:54 pm

And it was then that Bunselpower realized that Camoflauge is just a worse Protean without the attacks.

Seriously, screw that noise, I'll just use Blue's Froakie. I can't believe I'm saying that Mud and Water Sport are more useful than anything, but alas.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:51 pm

Just wondering if you'll distribute my Froakie or use it as a parent?

Mainly b/c I dont want such a good Female Froakie to end up breeding fodder to the trash when your done as I want this Froakie to see battle someday Surprised

I do have another female you can use as a parent (or can send both for the EMs but I have males too) let me know which one(s) you want and whenever your ready to trade.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:45 pm

I can just take the males. I really just want to avoid chaining the egg moves. I'd like to breed the thing myself. And I'm good all night.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:10 pm

Pokemon shuffle has ruined my streak Sad. Anyway, I also vote jolly because I already have a couple of timid ones.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:52 pm

Hey blue, I just found a random Froakie I must have wonder traded for, so thanks but I have it under control.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:33 am

ed819 wrote:
Pokemon shuffle has ruined my streak Sad. Anyway, I also vote jolly because I already have a couple of timid ones.

I'm disappointed In you, Ed. I told you not to give in!

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:13 pm

Alright, if you have trouble getting a 6IV HP Fire Naive HA you can always use mine for distribution.

Also I like Jolly as well.

... and who doesnt have a Timid Froakie anyways? Although we should still breed for it. Though those were everywhere early X/Y so I'd be surprised if there was someone here who doesnt have one as thats pretty much the easiest Pokemon to find a trade for. Not in quality though as you dont see alot with effort put into its EMs.


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:39 am

I realized that instead of making my own post, I actually edited blue's. I thought my post was last or something. Sorry blue lol. This is what I meant to post:

I have 15 Froakie and 6 Greninja, and 80% of those are Timid. I could do a distribution without Power Saves.

Also, Ori and the Blind Forest is kind of slowing me down.


What I would like to add to this post is that if anyone doesn't have a Timid Froakie, I will gladly breed and supply them with one. I'm sure blue has a handful too. But I don't want to break the 2 set rule.

Also, I have finished the HP Fire mixed set! Only the regular Jolly to go! I'd be surprised if I didn't finish today sometime.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Froakie   Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:32 am

Man, who knew that the Jolly would give me more trouble than the 6iv mixed. I got a perfect earlier, but it was Torrent...

Anyhow, this is now done as of late last night.

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