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What nature for the defensive set?
Careful
25%
 25% [ 2 ]
Impish
75%
 75% [ 6 ]
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PostSubject: [Finished] Druddigon   Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:50 pm


Druddigon



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Proposed Sets

Set 1 : Offensive
Ability: Sheer Force
Nature: Adamant
Item: Life Orb/Assault Vest
IV spread: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Hidden Power: Not Relevant
Egg Moves:
- Sucker Punch
- Glare
- Fire Fang
- Iron Tail

Set 2 : Defensive
Ability: Rough Skin
Nature: Impish/Careful
Item: Rocky Helmet
IV spread: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Hidden Power: Not Relevant
Egg Moves:
- Sucker Punch
- Glare
- Fire Fang
- Snatch

Not sure if this pokemon qualifies for 2 sets. Thoughts?


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:00 am

Maybe snatch for the defensive set, in case you can steal something worthwhile. Not sure though if its worth it.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:02 am

What should I replace for snatch? Iron Tail?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:12 am

I'd get rid of Iron Tail on the last set. All in all it's a pretty bad move, and not one that's going to find its way onto a defensive set that is at a minimum, going to include Stealth Rock and Glare pretty much guaranteed. At least Snatch isn't a terrible move.

And yeah, this thing deserves two sets. I always thought that the defensive set should be Impish, that way you can take more physical hits, but I see Smogon has it listed as Careful as well. I think Impish makes the most sense to me, but I mean, it's probably pretty good Careful.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:36 am

Sheer Force probably is the better ability here, but Mold Breaker is just too good to be ignored and it's the HA... Sooo idk.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:47 am

I forgot about mold breaker. IDK, offensively, sheet force is probably better just because this thing isn't a cleaner so much as a hard hitter.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:51 am

I think Sheer Force is a must offensively. It get Gunk Shot and Fire Punch, which both have great coverage with its Dragon STAB and get the SF boost. Although I guess those are ORAS tutor moves, if we're talking XY it's a little more debatable. Maybe you just want that Mold Breaker EQ.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:18 am

I still think sheer force is the way to go here.

Unless we prove that mold breaker is better pre ORAS and we rebreed for sheer force. Mold breaker does get past things like magic bounce I think, so you have a guaranteed glare save for electric types.

Hmm,after reading up on mold breaker on a defensive Pokemon like Druddigon, it can actually force levitate users to be affected by spikes if it's the one that forced it out with a move, like dragon tail. Any ability except magic guard gets suppressed. This is pretty cool. This thing has 3 top tier abilities that can really be used two ways, its a shame we have to exclude any of thways

Good thing I already have 4 Druddigon. B)

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:59 am

Druddigon indeed has 3 good abilities to choose from. While Mold Breaker in itself is a good ability to have, between an offensive Sheer Force and Mold Breaker Druddigon, Sheer Forces edges it slightly.

But, in theory, one can easily breed a Sheer Force offspring if one has a Mold Breaker parent but not the other way around.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:57 pm

I think the general consensus on ability for the offensive set is Sheer Force, so I'll go with that.

I'll make a poll for the nature of the defensive set.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:22 pm

Guys, please vote. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:43 pm

ed819 wrote:
Guys, please vote. Smile

Did. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:58 pm

I can cancel my vote so one of the natures wins if you'd like Very Happy lol

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Druddigon   Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:00 am

cmzoid wrote:
I can cancel my vote so one of the natures wins if you'd like Very Happy lol

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