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PostSubject: [Finished] Machop   Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:36 am


Proposed Sets

Set 1 : We are the (Ma)champions
Ability: No Guard
Nature: Adamant
Item: Assault Vest
IV spread: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Hidden Power: Not Relevant
Egg Moves:
Bullet Punch
Ice Punch
Knock Off
Close Combat (?)

Machop/ Machamp is a pretty straightforward mon. AssVest is by far the most popular set, which I'm sure Bunsel will appreciate. Moves are pretty much non-debatable besides Close Combat, which is questionable since any No Guard Machamp should be running Dynamic Punch. This can be replaced with another elemental punch if you like, but neither does anything much for 'champ anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:50 am

Stop stealing my gen 1 darlings! D:

Fire Punch over Close Combat. Close Combat is only useful on a Guts set.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:04 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
Stop stealing my gen 1 darlings! D:

Fire Punch over Close Combat. Close Combat is only useful on a Guts set.
You still got Mankey, Hitmons, and Drowzee.

though your gonna have to beat me to Drowzee but I wont be doing Spoink anytime soon anyways so you likely can.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:05 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
Stop stealing my gen 1 darlings! D:

With the pace Karp is going, he's pretty much going to take all the Gen 1 Pokémon. Probably. Lol.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:14 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
Close Combat is only useful on a Guts set.

Absolutely true, but I cannot find a single use for Fire Punch other than Forretress. Resisted Dynamic Punch = normally effective Fire Punch. Everything else in UU would be hit harder by some other common move in its set. Thunderpunch seems even more redundant. When your moveset already consists of Dynamicpunch, Stone Edge, Knock Off, Ice Punch and Bullet Punch there's just no room for either of those. At least with CC someone who wanted to run a Guts Machamp could just breed one with no additional hassle.

But hey, as long as I get to keep stealing your genwuns I'm happy. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:22 pm

Honestly, Guts would probably make a better AV user, for the boost, but the lowered defenses of CC make that a bad idea. I don't like CC with No Guard, but I do think it has more use than Fire Punch. Ice Punch is really the only elemental punch you'll need. Unless you run this thing in non Smogon battles and Aegislash (or I guess Doublade) makes an appearance, but that is situational, and even then, still a gamble to go after Aegislash with a physical attacker. One wrong move and you're toast.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:43 pm

I used to run an AV Guts Machamp with Close Combat on a Showdown team (ya know, the one I kicked all your asses with) so I'm changing my mind. Close Combat.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:27 am

Please vote in my awesome poll and break the tie. Very Happy

(Although, if me, Bunsel and now MC are in favour of CC, surely it should have 3 votes Suspect)

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:23 pm

sorry i forgot to actually change my vote. it's done now

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:59 pm

bash678 wrote:
Mademoiselle C wrote:
Stop stealing my gen 1 darlings! D:

With the pace Karp is going, he's pretty much going to take all the Gen 1 Pokémon. Probably. Lol.

lol Karp breeding at the speed of light O.O
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:41 am

LOADING MACHOP...

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:02 am

MACHOP COMPLETE

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CONTINUE BREEDING LIKE A MADMAN? Y/N

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MISSION ACCEPTED

THE RNG IS NOW OFFICIALLY YOUR BITCH

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:10 pm

Don't steal Mankey pls I really want it Sad

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Machop   Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:19 pm

k

I was actually gonna go for tyrogue. But how are we doing it? Cause I don't mind doing all 3 evos. But I will just take hitmontop if you don't want me going crazy. Very Happy

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