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PostSubject: [Finished] Woobat   Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:42 am


Woobat




http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/527.shtml

Proposed Sets

Set 1 : NAME OF THE SET
Ability: Simple
Nature: Timid
Item: Kee Berry/Salac Berry
IV spread: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Hidden Power: Not Relevant
Egg Moves:
- Stored Power
- Psycho Shift
- Synchronoise
- Knock Off


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:53 am

I'd say go Venom Drench over Sychronoise. You likely wont use either often but Venom Drench is just a much rarer move.

Also its getting Knock Off in ORAS so maybe Charm?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:03 am

I don't know about venom drench, it's really worthless. At least Synchrnoise has the benefit of hitting flying types.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:07 am

But you really have no room for it. After 1 CM this gets +2 SpA/SpD thats a 100BP Stored Power. After 2 CMs its a 180 BP Move rivaling Victini's V Create and thats just the BP. Dont forget about its boosted SpA. Really doesnt want to use Sychronoise over Stored Power. I like Venom Drench b/c its a rare move with somewhat limited distribution. Though maybe Sychronoise can still get on over over Knock Off.

Just want Venom Drench on there.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:58 pm

I could replace Knock Off with Venom Drench? Most of the egg moves are filler moves anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:23 pm

ed819 wrote:
I could replace Knock Off with Venom Drench? Most of the egg moves are filler moves anyway.

Just do whatever is easier, its just a filler move in the first place. Knock off is by far the most useful move, as the other two are absolute throw aways, and would be useful to people who won't have ORAS immediately.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:26 pm

Yeah, that's right zoid. Get the easiest one. Do not expend any energy on a throwaway move.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:31 am

Knock Off is still an ORAS tutor and a physical attack and he should have a Phantump with Venom Drench and Smeargle is a possible parent so I just dont see the point of Knock Off Razz

Though I'll be fine with any EM that isnt Knock Off.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:38 am

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
Knock Off is still an ORAS tutor and a physical attack and he should have a Phantump with Venom Drench and Smeargle is a possible parent so I just dont see the point of Knock Off Razz

Though I'll be fine with any EM that isnt Knock Off.

We aren't sure that ORAS will be backward compatible with XY for move tutors, so since the last move is worthless, Knock Off will be the safest move.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:39 am

Knock off stays. Did you read the announcement?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:48 am

Even then though I still do not see use in Knock Off with that base 57 attack and frailness Razz

Just look at those 65/57/57 defenses

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:28 pm

Knock off is a move that it doesn't matter whether you kill something. Attack power is irrelevant.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:55 pm

I agree with bunsel. I don't think anyone's gonna use knock off, but I think it's still better than venom drench

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:56 pm

I think I'll just go with my original planned set. What item should I attach?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:01 pm

It's whatever you want Ed. We all have the battle items now, so I'm going with master ball for a while, but I love the rare berry idea you've got going there.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:23 pm

I'd say go Salac Berry as listed for Stored Power+Simple reasons

Maybe Sub+CM+Stored Power+Coverage/Roost

Becomes unstatuseable and near invincible(with Roost) on the Special side.

Also has good coverage moves such as Heat Wave and Signal Beam if both come back in ORAS.

BTW off topic but might need you to NN something real soon...

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Woobat   Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:31 pm

I like the idea of the defense raising berry. It'll get the boost doubled and after a calm mind, watch out. Salac berry for the same reason, just more offensive.

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