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PostSubject: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:40 pm

Apparently these stats were discovered in the Demo:

  • Swampert-M Stats: 100/150/110/95/110/70 Type: Water/Ground
  • Sceptile-M Stats: 70/110/75/145/85/145 Type: Grass/Dragon
  • Sableye- Stats: 50/85/125/85/115/20 Type: Dark/Ghost
  • Altaria-M Stats: 75/110/110/110/105/80 Type: Dragon/Fairy
  • Gallade-M Stats: 68/165/95/65/115/110 Type: Psychic/Fighting
  • Audino-M Stats: 103/60/126/80/126/50 Type: Normal/Fairy
  • Sharpedo-M Stats: 70/140/70/110/65/105 Type: Water/Dark
  • Steelix-M Stats: 75/125/230/55/95/30 Type: Steel/Ground
  • Pidgeot-M Stats: 83/80/80/135/80/121 Type: Normal/Flying
  • Glalie-M Stats: 80/120/80/120/80/100 Type: Ice/Ice
  • Diancie-M Stats: 50/160/110/160/110/110 Type: Rock/Fairy
  • Metagross-M Stats: 80/145/150/105/110/110 Type: Steel/Psychic
  • Kyogre-P Stats: 100/150/90/180/160/90 Type: Water/Water
  • Groudon-P Stats: 100/180/160/150/90/90 Type: Ground/Fire
  • Rayquaza-M Stats: 105/180/100/180/100/115 Type: Dragon/Flying
  • Hoopa-M Stats: 80/160/60/170/130/80 Type: Psychic/Dark
  • Camerupt-M Stats: 70/120/100/145/105/20 Type: Fire/Ground
  • Lopunny-M Stats: 65/136/94/54/96/135 Type: Normal/Fighting
  • Salamence-M Stats: 95/145/130/120/90/120 Type: Dragon/Flying
  • Beedrill-M Stats: 65/150/40/15/80/145 Type: Bug/Poison
  • Slowbro-M Stats: 95/75/180/130/80/30 Type: Water/Psychic


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Sprites for All Pokemon Shiny/Non-Shiny
Move Tutor Moves
Level Up Moves
Egg Moves

Also a few new level up moves and tutor moves were figured out.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:55 pm

Also just to confirm it is possible for all of this to be fake. There is also more info out there I didnt post. Still the shiny sprites do seem kinda convincing for me.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:08 am

It's not "leaked" since the demo is out and its content is meant to be public... But yeah I've seen those mega stats and I'm loving most of them, especially Pidgeot, Beedrill, Altaria, Metagross and Slowbro.

By the way fix your formatting please.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:12 am

Mademoiselle C wrote:
It's not "leaked" since the demo is out and its content is meant to be public... But yeah I've seen those mega stats and I'm loving most of them, especially Pidgeot, Beedrill, Altaria, Metagross and Slowbro.

By the way fix your formatting please.
I'll fix it tomorrow as well as the topic title. I rushed to get this up and got to go to sleep.

They killed Beedrill's already dead SpA to give it ridiculous boosts to Att/Spe o.o

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:27 am

If you don't have time to write a thread correctly, then don't. The forum is not a rough draft book.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:46 am

Oh wow. Lopunny got a +60 attack boost (and everyone said it would have gotten + 40).... 136 isn't even that bad...not great but i'm not sad with how it turned out considering it started with 76 Very Happy (and +60 is rare isn't it?)


Happy in general for most of them Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:38 am

Updated, also Level Up Moves as well as all tutor moves posted.

Some notable tutor Moves

Mega Sceptile is getting Dragon Pulse back hooray Very Happy
Gourgeist and Florges is getting Synthesis o.o
Aurorus and Sylveon are getting Hyper Voice
Many Pokes are getting Knock Off  such as Pangoro, Yveltal, and Malamar.
Several Pokemon are getting Stealth Rock
Defog isnt a tutor moves Sad

Pretty much tutor move from past gens are returning Very Happy

As for Lv Up Moves Gyrados gets Crunch, Lopunny HJK, and Milotic is getting Coil o.o also other cool ones is Spiky Shield being given to the Cactus mons. Accelgor getting Water Shuriken. Mismagius is getting Mystical Fire. Dang they arent exclusive anymore.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:53 am

DRAIN PUNCH, GIGA DRAIN, AND KNOCK OFF MOVE TUTORS. MY ASSAULT VEST DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE. MY LIFE IS NOW COMPLETE.

YOU get an assault vest! And YOU get an assault vest!

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:03 pm

Bunselpower wrote:
DRAIN PUNCH, GIGA DRAIN, AND KNOCK OFF MOVE TUTORS. MY ASSAULT VEST DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE. MY LIFE IS NOW COMPLETE.

YOU get an assault vest! And YOU get an assault vest!

lol Bunsel XD





(also milotic getting coil gives me false hope)

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:14 pm

Cloners, we now need every Pokemon distributed with an assault vest. Everyone needs enough for all their Pokemon.

Also, just thought about the word distribute. Tribute used to mean when the people or subordinate countries paid money to one ruler. So it was like all people with less paid once central ruler money so they didn't kill them. Now put dis- on the front and it's the opposite, the one central person that has gives to others that don't.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:33 pm

Hiding the bad formatting in a spoiler isn't fixing it.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:42 pm

Bunselpower wrote:
DRAIN PUNCH, GIGA DRAIN, AND KNOCK OFF MOVE TUTORS. MY ASSAULT VEST DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE. MY LIFE IS NOW COMPLETE.

YOU get an assault vest! And YOU get an assault vest!

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:43 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
Hiding the bad formatting in a spoiler isn't fixing it.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:55 pm

rafa wrote:
Mademoiselle C wrote:
Hiding the bad formatting in a spoiler isn't fixing it.

xD

lol

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:44 pm

Dragon-Flower wrote:
rafa wrote:
Mademoiselle C wrote:
Hiding the bad formatting in a spoiler isn't fixing it.

xD

lol

Mandatory lol

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:48 pm

DRAIN PUNCH SLURPUFF

ADAMANT FOR THE WIN I NUE IT!!!


(still annoyed that i never actually finished that slurpuff)

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:36 pm

Drain punch belly drum unburden slurpuff. GG.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:15 pm

I fixed it for you (and it took me 5 seconds, which is pretty much the same time it took you to hide it in a spoiler). But next time I'll just delete it. Either you learn to use BB code or you keep your formatting more simple.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:19 pm

I am really liking that Pidgeot speed stat. Too bad it didn't get two more...

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:28 pm

Yeah it missed out on Greninja a little bit but Hurricane+Heat Wave+No Guard is really good. B/c of Mega Pidgeot I'll soon be breeding a mixed HP Ground set for myself as I see potential in it Surprised

Also Madem I tried BB code. None of what I needed to delete showed up for me Razz A problem I always have. I liked the way the site used to be where all the formatting doesnt show up when you type. Really messes up alot of my topics.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:27 pm

Hey guys if you havent noticed you can try the new megas on Showdown if you want. Me and Dragon tested it out the other day where I used Mega Gallade and he used Mega Lopunny.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:29 pm

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
Hey guys if you havent noticed you can try the new megas on Showdown if you want. Me and Dragon tested it out the other day where I used Mega Gallade and he used Mega Lopunny.

Mega Gallade wrecks Mega lopunny (unless you can fit an encore in there somewhere). But in general in a 1v1, that's how it goes.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:51 pm

Also they no longer have those terrible sprites. They're using the stills from the datamine.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:57 pm

Dragon-Flower wrote:
BlueDryBones1 wrote:
Hey guys if you havent noticed you can try the new megas on Showdown if you want. Me and Dragon tested it out the other day where I used Mega Gallade and he used Mega Lopunny.

Mega Gallade wrecks Mega lopunny (unless you can fit an encore in there somewhere). But in general in a 1v1, that's how it goes.
Thats if Lopunny switches in on a predicted SD and has already mega evolved to outspeed. Return is a 2HKO and you cant use Fake Out on Gallade like other pokes for the free mega turn b/c of Inner Focus. So yeah just 4/0 Gallade means Lopunny isnt getting past it but you shouldnt have Lopunny in on it anyways.

I would say the best Lopunny atm is:

Lopunny @ Whateveritsstoneiscalled
Jolly
Limber (to switch into Twaves and stuff for free)
28 HP / 252 Att / 232 Spe
-Fake Out/Power-Up-Punch
-Return
-High Jump Kick
-Encore/Healing Wish

Its STABs are unresisted b/c of Scrappy. Fake Out+Return takes out alot of frail sweepers. Encore can be used to stop setup sweepers and stuff like that while Healing Wish is to help someone else. That last slot is best used for something like those 2 moves imo.

Speed EVs are to outrun the 150 Spe Megas that run a neutral speed nature and stuff like +1 base 70s w/ a positive nature. You can potentially lower speed EVs for more bulk if you dont need to be that fast.

Fake Out+Return actually takes out most offensive Pokes from what I've seen. Fake Out also makes you safely Mega. PuP is slashed though b/c if you can Encore someone into a move that doesnt hurt you you can PuP repeatedly so you can try to sweep with your unresisted STABs.

Just think of something like a Mega Slowbro thinking Lopunny cant do anything to it and starts setting up CMs. You can then Encore it and proceed to get some free PuPs.

Fake Out can be ran with both Encore or Healing Wish. However you should only run Encore if you are using Power Up Punch.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:07 pm

Dragon-Flower wrote:
(unless you can fit an encore in there somewhere). But in general in a 1v1, that's how it goes.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:11 pm

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(unless you can fit an encore in there somewhere). But in general in a 1v1, that's how it goes.
Yeah but I thought you meant 1v1 as no Gallade would use Swords Dance on Mega Lopunny when Return 2HKOs you. You could predict a switch but I feel Encore will see alot of usage on Lopunny so most would probably go straight for the Close Combat.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:13 pm

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(unless you can fit an encore in there somewhere). But in general in a 1v1, that's how it goes.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:32 pm

How much does a return do?

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:37 pm

252+ Atk Lopunny Return vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gallade: 198-234 (71.2 - 84.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


This is with Adamant btw, worst case Scenario. It has Fake Out but like I said seems Gallade's Inner Focus is actually useful in that situation. Also most Lopunny will likely be Jolly.


252 Atk Lopunny Return vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gallade: 180-213 (64.7 - 76.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


If Lopunny is +1 before Gallade switches in though at +1 it has a 81.3% chance to OHKO Gallade.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:41 pm

Giga Impact.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:43 pm

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(unless you can fit an encore in there somewhere). But in general in a 1v1, that's how it goes.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:06 pm

Bunselpower wrote:
Giga Impact.
If we are gonna do only 1 Pokemon battle and run stuff like that I can run 252 Def 252 HP Gallade. Lopunny is always OHKOd by CC but it gets a small chance to survive if it maxes out defense but by doing that Return wont 2HKO and Giga Impact has that Recoil turn.

Under normal circumstances in a 1v1 Gallade wins. However in a real battle in a full team it really depends. Is Gallade switching in on a +1 Lopunny or is Lopunny switching in on a Gallade that just used Swords Dance. Also if non-mega Lopunny switches into Mega Gallade you already lost as Mega Gallade will outspeed. Gallade can Mega on Lopunny and take a hit. I'm assuming though they each got a free switch in.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:12 pm

I'm guessing the subtle art of sarcasm is lost on you bones.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:13 pm

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I'm guessing the subtle art of sarcasm is lost on you bones.
No, I'm just trying to emphasize Mega Gallade's superiority Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:47 am

Also have you guys noticed on the official site where the megas are displayed they are usually fighting one of these pokes:

Shiftry
Torkoal
Dusknoir
Slaking

As well as

Sableye
Gallade
Starter Trio
Salamence

Which have confirmed Megas.

Maybe those 4 are there for a reason. Shiftry I think has appeared the most of them all followed by Slaking then Dusknoir then Torkoal.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:00 pm

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
Also have you guys noticed on the official site where the megas are displayed they are usually fighting one of these pokes:

Shiftry
Torkoal
Dusknoir
Slaking

As well as

Sableye
Gallade
Starter Trio
Salamence

Which have confirmed Megas.

Maybe those 4 are there for a reason. Shiftry I think has appeared the most of them all followed by Slaking then Dusknoir then Torkoal.

Milotic appeared once or twice so obviously milotic confurmd Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:06 pm

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
Also have you guys noticed on the official site where the megas are displayed they are usually fighting one of these pokes:

Shiftry
Torkoal
Dusknoir
Slaking

As well as

Sableye
Gallade
Starter Trio
Salamence

Which have confirmed Megas.

Maybe those 4 are there for a reason. Shiftry I think has appeared the most of them all followed by Slaking then Dusknoir then Torkoal.

Luvdisc is also a pokemon, so clearly its also possible it gets a mega O.O

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:13 pm

Or, because it's a third gen game, they want to showcase third gen pokes, and all the other ones have megas.














(except flygon )

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:39 pm

Iv'e been trying out ORAS OU since it's the only tier atm that we can use mega pokes from ORAS and now i remember why i hate singles (bcuz i niid 2 git gud)

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:42 pm

Especially with the increased number on Pokemon and moves, it's so hard to be consistently good in singles. Now more than ever it depends on the player.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:42 pm

Bunselpower wrote:
Especially with the increased number on Pokemon and moves, it's so hard to be consistently good in singles. Now more than ever it depends on the player.


After further analysis, i have concluded that OU consists of the same 20 pokemon, almost always including any of thunderus,landorus, and tornadus.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:47 pm

Oh yeah, it's nuts. They've banned the stuff that can stop them because they still haven't figured out that there are more Pokemon than there were in 2007, and won't change the criteria for a poke to be ou.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:11 pm

Dragon-Flower wrote:
BlueDryBones1 wrote:
Also have you guys noticed on the official site where the megas are displayed they are usually fighting one of these pokes:

Shiftry
Torkoal
Dusknoir
Slaking

As well as

Sableye
Gallade
Starter Trio
Salamence

Which have confirmed Megas.

Maybe those 4 are there for a reason. Shiftry I think has appeared the most of them all followed by Slaking then Dusknoir then Torkoal.

Milotic appeared once or twice so obviously milotic confurmd Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:12 pm

cmzoid wrote:
BlueDryBones1 wrote:
Also have you guys noticed on the official site where the megas are displayed they are usually fighting one of these pokes:

Shiftry
Torkoal
Dusknoir
Slaking

As well as

Sableye
Gallade
Starter Trio
Salamence

Which have confirmed Megas.

Maybe those 4 are there for a reason. Shiftry I think has appeared the most of them all followed by Slaking then Dusknoir then Torkoal.

Luvdisc is also a pokemon, so clearly its also possible it gets a mega O.O

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:40 pm

rafa wrote:
--' wouldn't you prefer Cradily?

Cradily should get a primal form Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:01 am

Hey all, got a question which I don't think merits its own thread. I assume when we're deciding what egg moves to breed we're taking the ORAS move tutors into account now? IDK if this will make much difference since a lot of pokes don't even have 4 useful egg moves, but just thought I should check.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:12 am

Yeah, at the very least we're breeding sets that will take into account those egg moves. Maybe the egg moves won't change, but the nature or hidden power might.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:15 am

And to think I bred y'all a HP-grass Larvesta just for it to get Giga Drain x_x

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:17 am

Yeah, i think there will be more than one potential re breed after we finish everything.

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PostSubject: Re: Mega Stats, Sprites, Tutor Moves, Level Up Moves   Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:21 am

It's great to be back!

I'm totally just lurking in case MC starts the next types. Snipers gonna snipe. Although, I suppose technically I have the authority to start it myself... but she has the banner. Neutral

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