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PostSubject: [Finished] Nincada   Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:57 pm


Nincada



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Proposed Sets

Set 1 : Embrace the base speed!
Ability: Speed Boost
Nature: Impish
Item: Leftovers
IV spread: 31/31/31/X/31/31
Hidden Power: N/A
Egg Moves:
- Bug Bite
- Endure
- Final Gambit
- Night Slash

Set 2 : Shell of itself
Ability: Wonder Guard
Nature: Lonely
Item: Focus Sash
IV spread: 0/31/0/X/31/31
Hidden Power: N/A
Egg Moves:
- Bug Bite
- Endure
- Final Gambit
- Night Slash

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In the Quality Control Testing

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:57 pm

If anyone wonders about Shedinja's Ivs... just ask Blue lol

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:37 am

I vote for Adamant for Ninjask. We need the ability to use a Choice Banded set to continue the 5 Guys and a Gigalith thing.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:58 am

Bunselpower wrote:
I vote for Adamant for Ninjask. We need the ability to use a Choice Banded set to continue the 5 Guys and a Gigalith thing.

I think Adamant might be nice on it. Although impish might allow it to live more, I would think a choice band or life orb would work on it. Being adamant would help it hit harder also. I'm saying this having never used a Ninjask, although, it has paper for defense, so it wouldn't really live anything anyways, and adamant would allow it to hit harder. I mean whatever you think would be best though. I just thought this from looking at its stats and typing.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:12 am

Yeah, its super gimmicky, but choice band let's it hit kinda hard, with U-Turn. It gets infiltrator, which is the better ability with adamant. But I mean I have one, so don't make one on account of me.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:11 am

Zoid before you start breeding try to give both parents SD and BP and see if you can pass any. I hear the ninjask evo trick no longer works and Shedinja cant take either of those moves. So was hoping if you can see if they can be passed that way.

and I kinda want Impish. Mainly b/c I want to try Eviolite Nincada even though it cant accomplish a thing but has such great Def.

Give both Final Gambit over Feint Attack.

Also Shedinja must be Lonely. With Lonely and 0 Def its Def is lower than its SpD giving DL boosters a Att boost so it can switch out of Pokes like Genesect and Porygon-Z into another Poke which will then take the hit better.

Also I vote Bug Buzz over Night Slash for Shedinja. I tried Special attacking Shedinja before and it was ok that I got a sweep with some support. I remember running Bug Buzz, Shadow Ball, Sunny Day, and Solarbeam.

Lonely should be 0/31/0/31/31/31 HP can be 0 or 31 to make it easier but I just want to see the IV Judge say its HP is dismal.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:20 am

Also the Lonely spread gives HP Ice.

Dont bother special balling Shedinja's Nincanda. Shedinja can only be in a regular Pokeball outside of Generation III.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:23 am

Why don't we do bug Buzz over faint attack?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:29 am

Well now that i think about it:

Nincada: All that you already have but swap Feint Attack for Final Gambit.

Shedinja: Gust, Bug Buzz, Endure, ???

Mainly for Special Bug STAB and a new coverage move. Its SpA is terribly weak but meh a move type it cant normally have is worth it to me imo with Specs it can even take out Weedle after Stealth Rock.

252 SpA Choice Specs Shedinja Gust vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Weedle: 180-214 (81.4 - 96.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after stealth rocks

it even can OHKO a Lv 14 Eviolite Chansey

252 SpA Choice Specs Shedinja Gust vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 98-116 (100 - 118.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:36 am

Not gust. There is absolutely no way I am signing off on a base 40 move coming off a base 30 special attack.

Do bug buzz, bug bite, night slash, and endure for Shedinja.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:43 am

Bunselpower wrote:
Not gust. There is absolutely no way I am signing off on a base 40 move coming off a base 30 special attack.

Do bug buzz, bug bite, night slash, and endure for Shedinja.
But why Night Slash when it gets STAB Shadow Claw Surprised

I'd rather use Final Gambit.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:51 am

Why use Gust when it gets Aerial Ace?

I agree that night slash is useless, but gust is also useless. This thing is already two pokemon, I don't want the breeder hunting down useless egg moves when night slash is already going to be on his other parent. If you can honestly say you'll use gust, we'll do it. But I'm not going to create busy work for the breeders.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:59 am

Well I'd still vote Final Gambit over Feint attack over both and leave it at that.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:02 am

Zoid, if you want to press your luck, you can go for whatever egg moves you want. If you like gust go for it. One thing, final gambit needs to be on there for at least the first set.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:10 am

I knew I should have put Final Gambit on Shedinja! Because of how useless Shedinja's special attack is in the first place, I'm just going to use the same egg moves for both. Also, in reference to Swords Dance and Baton Pass. I see absolutely no way that could work, as Nincada cannot learn either move.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:15 pm

cmzoid wrote:
I knew I should have put Final Gambit on Shedinja! Because of how useless Shedinja's special attack is in the first place, I'm just going to use the same egg moves for both. Also, in reference to Swords Dance and Baton Pass. I see absolutely no way that could work, as Nincada cannot learn either move.
But Male+Female Ninjask can. Just get 1 use Rare Candies clone it and see.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:41 pm

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
But Male+Female Ninjask can. Just get 1 use Rare Candies clone it and see.

Yeah, they've removed that aspect. Now it only learns the moves Nincada learns pre-evolution, and cannot learn Swords Dance or Baton Pass. Nincada can never learn those moves, even if both parents know them, so it won't work.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:49 am

Shedinja needs 31 SpA D: I'd rather take the x HP

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:55 am

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
Shedinja needs 31 SpA D: I'd rather take the x HP

It has base 30 Sp. Atk... it really doesn't need either Sp. Atk or HP lol

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:51 am

Hey zoid, are you still working on this or did you forget to change the title?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:09 am

Bunselpower wrote:
Hey zoid, are you still working on this or did you forget to change the title?

Oh sorry, I'm almost done with it, have the egg moves done and almost have the IVs, I just sort of... forgot about it... Very Happy (I'll finish it tonight or tomorrow night lol)

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:12 am

No it's not a rush, there were just a couple threads that hadn't been touched for a while. Just checking. (chikorita hasn't been taken yet anyway).

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:21 am

This is done. I got 2 Nincada which could work for the Shedinja set. One which is 0/31/0/X/31/31 and the other which is X/31/0/31/31/31. I'm thinking the 2nd one is better, since it has overall no use for HP, so... yeah Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Nincada   Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:25 am

Agree. Nice job.

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