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PostSubject: [Finished] Snover   Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:11 pm


Proposed Sets

Set 1 : Trick Room Mixed Sweeper
Ability: Soundproof
Nature: Quiet
Item: Abomasite
IV spread: 31/31/31/31/31/0
Hidden Power: None
Egg Moves:
- Seed Bomb
- Avalanche
- Bullet Seed
- Growth

This set is meant to be used with:
- Blizzard
- Earthquake/Focus Blast
- Wood Hammer/Energy Ball
- Ice Shard

This is the best set Abomasnow can run imo. Blizzard is at 100% accuracy in hail and coming of a base 132 special attack just wrecks things besides bulky waters, but none of these will enjoy taking a Wood Hammer/Energy Ball. Earthquake provides solid coverage along with Ice and Grass dual STAB moves, and allows it to hit Steel types (bar Levitate Bronzong) for good damage. Ice Shard is a great priority STAB move to finish off frail/weak Pokémon. Quiet nature is to be used with Energy ball and Brave nature with Wood Hammer, 0 IVs for best speed in Trick Room.

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Set 2 : Specially Offensive SubSeed
Ability: Soundproof
Nature: Modest
Item: Abomasite
IV spread: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Hidden Power: None
Egg Moves:
- Seed Bomb
- Avalanche
- Leech Seed
- Growth

This set is meant to be used with:
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Blizzard
- Energy Ball/Focus Blast/Protect

SubSeed set on the special side to abuse 100% accurate Blizzard. Leech Seed as a means of recovery with lack of Leftovers on Mega-Abomasnow.


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:32 pm

We NEED a Mega set w/ Soundproof. It allows you to get up hail whenever YOU want preferably the turn your gonna use Blizzard at the same time immunities to Hyper Voice, Boomburst, Bug Buzz, etc before mega.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:34 pm

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
We NEED a Mega set w/ Soundproof. It allows you to get up hail whenever YOU want preferably the turn your gonna use Blizzard at the same time immunities to Hyper Voice, Boomburst, Bug Buzz, etc before mega.

Good call, I'll breed Soundproof ones then.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:36 pm

Hmmmm I think my favorite one is the mixed set. But Snover gives us some interesting possibilities. I just can't stand its weakness to fire. So... a mixed set with trick room would allow it to deal with fire types. I don't really know... never used it.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:38 pm

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
We NEED a Mega set w/ Soundproof. It allows you to get up hail whenever YOU want preferably the turn your gonna use Blizzard at the same time immunities to Hyper Voice, Boomburst, Bug Buzz, etc before mega.

yeah, great idea
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Fri Jun 20, 2014 7:39 pm

GClaws wrote:
BlueDryBones1 wrote:
We NEED a Mega set w/ Soundproof. It allows you to get up hail whenever YOU want preferably the turn your gonna use Blizzard at the same time immunities to Hyper Voice, Boomburst, Bug Buzz, etc before mega.

Good call, I'll breed Soundproof ones then.

I tried it alot on showdown, no1 ever uses it imo but it prevents it from ruining your team. I used to run Quiet mixed w/ it but imo if we at least get a Soundproof set that can use Blizzard that'd be good enough for me as I just want to see that ability happen Surprised got so useful this gen.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:11 pm

I vote for brave nature for the mixed trick room set

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:17 pm

Quiet attacker, definitely. Blizzard is the most spammable move, that's the one you need to have boosted. Plus once giga drain comes back (I swear game freak, if you do anything, bring back giga drain) you're gonna want that anyway. Ice shard and earthquake round it out nicely.

Honestly, I'm not sure sub seed is viable really. I guess it can be used, offensive is the best.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:17 am

Yeah I suppose Quiet nature would be best to spam a stronger Blizzard. Also will do specially offensive SubSeed set too as voted for. Commencing breeding now.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:45 am

What about Soundproof Surprised where does everyone stand on that?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:51 am

BlueDryBones1 wrote:
What about Soundproof Surprised where does everyone stand on that?

I like the idea
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:57 am

I thought Soundproof was a given. It gives some handy immunities to several moves. Plus if you pass him some boosts (already making a team for this), he can't be forced out with roar.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:45 am

Yes Soundproof it is, I've edited the OP.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:33 am

So, I just checked and GClaws hasn't been online since June 30, that's a week and a half, so... maybe we should start thinking of someone else to breed Snover if we want to be able to start the next type on sunday...?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:01 pm

I can do it. Was he going to breed both sets?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:08 pm

Yeah I think so.

And now I realize I didn't participate in the discussion, and I want a physical set... T_T

But oh well, I can just breed one using the quiet set.

We'll wait until tomorrow in case he comes back, but if he doesn't you can start

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:10 pm

Yeah... that one lonely vote for physical was mine Sad
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:12 pm

We've been over this. Quiet is better in every way, especially considering Giga Drain should make a comeback.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:12 pm

i completely skipped this lol


I just want a pretty snover Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:39 am

Ok so... if someone could breed this today that'd be great. Rafa, were you breeding it already?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:59 am

Yeah, egg moves already collected, about to finish it Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:32 am

Awesome Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:45 pm

Damn... the spread won't come out right Sad

I'll have to finish this tomorrow after my surgery (7am yay) to lessen my sinusitis.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:25 pm

What kind of surgery? I have bad sinuses (living in the Midwest isn't helping) and they give me headaches pretty often. It hasn't been as bad this year for me, which is why I haven't looked any mroe into it. But I'm curious if it helps. I'll pray that it does.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:37 am

Yeah, São Paulo is the worst place ever to live if you have rhinitis and sinusitis... they say it is the paradise for the doctors that treat such cases. I have some kind of extra spongy meat in certain areas of my nose and apparently they make everything worse since they gather dust mite. Besides that, according to the doctor, I don't breathe normally due to that problem. Soooo that's what they're going to correct soon.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:43 am

Nice. I've heard about this balloon sinuplasty on the radio and wondered if that was it. I've been thinking about it. Anyway, good luck today!

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:06 pm

I'm gonna change mama snover... she's so unlucky  Mad 
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:09 pm

My 3IV HA mama Kabuto was very unlucky too and I ended up changing her for a 4IV HA papa Kabuto and surprisingly I got a 6IV HA bebe Kabuto after only 2 batches Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:21 pm

I got a shiny with this new mama Snover lol
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:24 pm

You go for perfect spreads with a 3IV parent? That halves your chances of getting a perfect spread.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:30 pm

That 3IV parent was the best HA female I had, since the female ratio is so bad... I was actually going for a 4IV HA female that I could use to replace it, but after 2 full boxes I never got one, so I ended up giving up and using a 4IV HA male even though a female was better to get the HA...

With that male, my 2nd batch of eggs had 4 HA Kabuto out of 5. And the only flawless one was the one without the HA, so I was kinda pissed... but I kept going, and the 2nd egg of my 3rd batch was a flawless HA Kabuto. So yeah, got lucky. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:42 pm

Nice. Yeah the male ratio is bad, but I think it's 60% as opposed to 80%, so you only lose 20 percentage points as opposed to fifty.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:48 am

Damn these snovers  Mad 
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Snover   Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:48 pm

Finished!!!  cheers 
I found two perfect trick room snovers in a row. One male and one female. Should I send the female (HA)?
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