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PostSubject: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:51 am


Proposed Sets

Set 1 : Master of Pokeball's
Ability: Thick Fat
Nature: Jolly
Item: Life Orb
IV spread: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Hidden Power: Not Relevant
Egg Moves:
-Freeze-Dry
-Icicle Spear
-Stealth Rock
-Icicle Crash


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:58 am

Naive, and freeze dry over double edge. It 2HKO's Rotom-W, one of its main checks, with only sixteen special attack investment. Adamant is just a little too slow either way.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:15 am

Bleh, I wouldn't use a special move on Mamoswine honestly. I would go with Jolly, and also Body Slam instead of Double-Edge. Or Freeze-Dry if you want cause I doubt I'll really use Body Slam, but I really prefer jolly over naive cause I think Mamoswine needs its bulk.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:17 am

Also, please take a minute to picture a jolly mammoth in your head.

There you go. You are convinced.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:20 am

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Bleh, I wouldn't use a special move on Mamoswine honestly. I would go with Jolly, and also Body Slam instead of Double-Edge. Or Freeze-Dry if you want cause I doubt I'll really use Body Slam, but I really prefer jolly over naive cause I think Mamoswine needs its bulk.

I kind of agree about the nature here, maybe put freeze-dry on in case anyone wants to re-breed for a naive? (with 60 base special defense it looks really frail if it had to come to special attackers already). About the egg moves though i will let everyone else decide since i really do not know Razz


Also after picturing a Jolly Mammoth i agree even further.


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:20 am

Bunsel suggests you go mixed. If mixed would win, this means you might probably end up breeding another 6IV only shortly after the Doom Cake. Lol.

I think I run Jolly on my Mamoswine, I'm not so sure. I don't really see Mamoswine as a mixed attacker but it could work. Regardless, Freeze-Dry though is still a good egg move.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:22 am

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Bunsel suggests you go mixed. If mixed would win, this means you might probably end up breeding another 6IV only shortly after the Doom Cake. Lol.

I think I run Jolly on my Mamoswine, I'm not so sure. I don't really see Mamoswine as a mixed attacker but it could work. Regardless, Freeze-Dry though is still a good egg move.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:33 am

I can help!  Razz joking lol

I'm with Ms. C. A jolly jolly mamoswine running unstoppable towards you on slippery ice Razz
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:49 am

You wouldn't really need to go full 6 IV. But in OU, probably the biggest stop (and one of a handful of pokes that resist ice and ground, maybe the only in OU) to a sweep is Rotom, and it's on every team. Being able to knock it out with some prediction will almost assuredly let you run rampant through everything else, and what other coverage move do you really need? Ice and ground are darn near perfect. Plus, defensive swampert, gyarados (which runs adamant and intimidate btw), gastrodon, among others can now not switch in hoping to tank a hit.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:53 am

sure sounds like 6IV suggestion to me... Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:15 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
please take a minute to picture a jolly mammoth in your head.

There you go. You are convinced.


But seriously you probably shouldn't be leaving a pokemon with 60 base special defense (with the special defense being lowered)out against its best counter

Just because something can go mixed doesn't mean it should. If its special defense is lowered it can basically be taken out by anything that can hit specially :/

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:04 pm

I think jolly with Freeze-Dry is a good idea, so like you said, if someone wants a mixed set they can breed it easily just by breeding with a Ditto of the nature they want.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:06 pm

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I think jolly with Freeze-Dry is a good idea, so like you said, if someone wants a mixed set they can breed it easily just by breeding with a Ditto of the nature they want.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:07 pm

Yeah i think it's a good idea too Smile


I can't believe it but this time it's totally not about me being lazy and not wanting to 6IV breed but actually about thinking it's better.


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:10 pm

Dragon-Flower wrote:
Yeah i think it's a good idea too Smile


I can't believe it but this time it's totally not about me being lazy and not wanting to 6IV breed but actaully about thinking it's better.


but... curse your logic... (hides my Jolly Mamoswine...)

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:41 pm

That's fine, it's whatever you guys want. I have three different Mamoswine sets anyway, so my bases are covered.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:06 pm

I also think you should include freeze dry for its egg moves so people who want to breed a mixed set can just pass on the egg move.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:17 pm

Yeah, I agree with freeze dry instead of double edge, someone said that earlier.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:39 pm

Oh, I also vote for a jolly nature

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:16 am

Yeah, that's probably what most people agreed on so far

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:05 pm

LISTEN UP MY BREEDINGSQUADMIGO'S! THERE'S A POLL NOW!


Vote for the Pokeball of your choice. If the likes of MADMOISELLE C or BLUEDRYBONES1 get to you in order to convince you of which ball to choose, please do ignore their futile pleas Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:06 pm

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LISTEN UP MY BREEDINGSQUADMIGO'S! THERE'S A POLL NOW!


Vote for the Pokeball of your choice. If the likes of MADMOISELLE C or BLUEDRYBONES1 get to you in order to convince you of which ball to choose, please do ignore their futile pleas Very Happy

And everyone remember, you have the power to change the future... and MC has the power to ban you for all eternity O.O

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:08 pm

cmzoid wrote:
Dragon-Flower wrote:
LISTEN UP MY BREEDINGSQUADMIGO'S! THERE'S A POLL NOW!


Vote for the Pokeball of your choice. If the likes of MADMOISELLE C or BLUEDRYBONES1 get to you in order to convince you of which ball to choose, please do ignore their futile pleas Very Happy

And everyone remember, you have the power to change the future... and MC has the power to ban you for all eternity O.O

NOTICE: if the likes of CMZOID has somehow influenced your choice, Please do ignore his technically true pleas.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:25 pm






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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:32 pm


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:33 pm

Nice image, MC
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:37 pm

I REPEAT! IGNORE THEIR FOOLISH PLEAS!


but seriously pay no attention to them or else it just makes it harder for me

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:41 pm

Everyone who votes pokeball will be promoted to admin. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:43 pm

Yay Very Happy lol
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:43 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
Everyone who votes pokeball will be promoted to admin. Smile

And everyone who votes premiere ball will be made into garbage Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:45 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
Everyone who votes pokeball will be promoted to admin. Smile

[13:44:37] @ Mademoiselle C : and i will promote them
[13:44:43] @ Mademoiselle C : i just didn't mention for how long

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:46 pm

you guys are making it harder and harder to come up with cool saying to ignore you two...




MC plans on temporarily promoting Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:47 pm

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Mademoiselle C wrote:
Everyone who votes pokeball will be promoted to admin. Smile

[13:44:37] @ Mademoiselle C : and i will promote them
[13:44:43] @ Mademoiselle C : i just didn't mention for how long

Totally ruined the point of my post and made you seem worse for it Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:51 pm

Oh no! the Poll is gone

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:36 pm

where's the premier ball option

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:43 pm

I deleted the poll because Dragon is the only one who has a right to choose the ball he's using. It's been clear since the beginning of the project that no pressuring about balls is to be done.

(And poke ball was winning so far, so no, I didn't delete it because I didn't want premier to win.)

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:41 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
I deleted the poll because Dragon is the only one who has a right to choose the ball he's using. It's been clear since the beginning of the project that no pressuring about balls is to be done.

(And poke ball was winning so far, so no, I didn't delete it because I didn't want premier to win.)

But Potato, and ugotmybeef wouldve voted Premier so it wouldve ended up wining Surprised

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:01 am

But then I'd have voted for poke ball. O.o

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:37 am

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But then I'd have voted for poke ball. O.o

lol MC said you would.


Maybe what i should do is breed the normal Swinub in a Pokeball and breed the Naive One that was suggested in a Premier Ball? I'd be willing to do the second one, but it would just mean that i may not get to do a second pokemon.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:21 pm

No Input means i take the lazy way out Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:40 am

I finished Swinub now Smile

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:59 am

Make sure you update the first post before this is archieved.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swinub   Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:10 pm

Thanks for reminding me, it's updated.

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