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PostSubject: [Finished] Bellsprout   Sat May 31, 2014 11:56 pm

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BELLSPROUT



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Proposed Sets

Set 1: Special Sun Sweeper
Ability: Chlorophyll
Nature: Modest
Item: Life Orb
IV spread: HP rock spread
Hidden Power: Rock
Egg Moves:
-Clear Smog
-Synthesis
-Giga Drain
-Weather Ball

Set 2: Mixed
Ability: Chlorophyll
Nature: Naughty
Item: Life Orb
IV spread: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Hidden Power: not relevant
Egg Moves:
-Bullet Seed
-Power Whip
-Weather Ball
-Synthesis


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:20 am

True, but running Encore and Growth on it is going to ruin your coverage.

And I do agree on the special boosting nature for mixed. However, it would be nice to have a physical boosting nature and since I think the special only one is definitely necessary, I would be fine with having this one physical. Power whip his like a Buick, and it is its higher attack stat. And like you said, power whip and knock off would be boosted, which is great, not to mention you can use belch like a one time nuke to boost your attacking stat. I like physical, grass and dark is enough of a reason to go mixed, that leaves two moves to be special.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:27 am

Victreebel's attack is slightly higher than its special attack and i'd like the mixed set to take advantage of that since we're doing a special set too anyway.

And I like Bullet Seed because substitute.

But if we do replace Bullet Seed, I would want it to be replaced by Belch, not Encore.

If I made a mixed Victreebel in the sun, the moveset would probably be:
- Leaf Blade/Bullet Seed/Power Whip
- Knock Off
- Weather Ball
- Growth/Synthesis/Belch

And yeah I really like Clear Smog better than Acid Spray.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:31 am

Also who would have though the 3 pokemon who would cause the most discussion would be Bellsprout, Budew and Oddish lol

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:58 am

I'm with Mademoiselle here. That is the way it should be run. Otherwise, why run mixed? Lowering your defenses for knock off is not worth it. And if we're running power whip, the attack boost is necessary. Power whip and knock off are necessary, and with growth on there, that's two physical attacks to one special. Mademoiselle's set along with the pure special are the two best sets imo.

Running encore eats up a move slot that this thing doesn't have to spare.

And yeah, don't bother with hp for mixed, too many other options.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:02 am

I updated the sets up there. The nature should be Naive then?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:04 am

No, naughty, like you said.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:06 am

Ooops, yep, naughty lol ur confusing me
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:07 am

Also the special set gets HP rock, and the mixed set should get 6IV
But if in like 1 week you still haven't managed to get a perfect 6IV, I think it could be fine if one of the 2 defenses got 28, 29 or 30 ivs.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:10 am

Tsk the 6iv is easy... I hope the rock hp goes fast
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:15 am

Can I go ahead and start breeding them? : D
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:26 am

Sets look good to me.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:31 am

There probably has been enough discussion to warrant the start of breeding. I mean... this topic is only at 6 times the usual replies of a Pokemon...
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:33 am

Lol
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:50 am

Because this is six times the juggernaut of a usual pokemon. Come on Zoid you bred the weedle, you should understand this.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:59 am

Bunselpower wrote:
Because this is six times the juggernaut of a usual pokemon. Come on Zoid you bred the weedle, you should understand this.

It is sort of different though, as most people were too afraid of weedle's raw power to even comment.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:13 pm

yeah i believe you can start

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:35 pm

Alright... I have the 6iv mixed bellsprout and the rock hp one. One problem only... the hp bellsprout isn't flawless... I have two of them. One 31/31/28/31/30/30 and one 31/31/30/31/28/30. Are these ok?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:38 pm

I'm sure that's fine. You don't have to get 6 IV because the hp one is special only, right? So getting 31 attack isn't necessary. But if those fly, I'd prefer the lower defense.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:52 pm

Yeah, I'd also prefer the one with 28 in defense. but good job on both Very Happy. The process can be somewhat annoying, and those look good Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:56 pm

On second thought, that will help with Knock Off on the the inevitable AV set I'm going to run.

Still team building for the tourney and trying to incorporate AV in there. You know I'm going to be running it.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:14 pm

Cool! I don't have the life orbs however... I can send them to the cloners without them, right?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:16 pm

Checking their stats in the Batte Institute is sure annoying lol thks for ur ditto! I'll go online and give it back to you later
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:16 pm

Yep just make sure to tell them to attach it.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Bellsprout   Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:17 pm

Alright
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