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PostSubject: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun May 25, 2014 5:34 am


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Proposed Sets

Set 1 : Doom Cake
Ability: Unburden
Nature: Naughty
Item: (Whipped Dream to be held by cottonee to prevent evolution) Big Root
IV spread: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Hidden Power: Not Relevant
Egg Moves:
- After You
- Belly Drum
- Copycat
- Yawn


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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun May 25, 2014 7:48 am

To be honest, I have yet to see a Special Slurpuff or even a mixed one. I'd say go for Adamant to take advantage of Belly Drum.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun May 25, 2014 10:32 am

I think naughty's a better nature for coverage against steel types. Also, swirlix has a very limited physical movepool so I really think it should go mixed.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun May 25, 2014 4:49 pm

I haven't seen a Mixed or Special Slurpuff myself either. In fact i tried running a special one myself (Modest with 252 in special attack) and it was pretty underwhelming. But apparently Mixed is the way to go in most cases, for coverage, since Slurpuff only gets two viable attacking moves (Return and Play Rough).

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon May 26, 2014 8:19 am

Guys, i think that i need a little more input as to which set to breed :/ one for Adamant and one for Naughty kind of leaves me at the starting point again...

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon May 26, 2014 9:26 am

Dragon-Flower wrote:
Guys, i think that i need a little more input as to which set to breed :/ one for Adamant and one for Naughty kind of leaves me at the starting point again...

I'd go for the Naughty one, due to the limited amount of physical moves it gets, and how little said moves can cover by themselves. Return isn't known for its coverage potential.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon May 26, 2014 4:12 pm

So it looks like i'm gonna be breeding a 6IV Again *sigh* last time i do it! (i swear this time lol). I might do it in a premier ball since it matches lol. I'll start tomorrow to leave more time in case anyone objects *someone please save me from this boundless despair*

Although as far as recover goes, with flamethrower taking up a slot, you can't use protect for reliable wish recovery. All you have to do is hit it hard twice in a row (if not once considering its defense is pretty low anyway).

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon May 26, 2014 4:59 pm

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon May 26, 2014 5:51 pm

I meant to say Recovery there on the first line, not recover... lol. But i guess you can tell XD

The only reason i prefer Adamant is because i run slurpuff on my fairy mono-team, and i know how crappy/great it can be in different situations.

Totally not because i don't want to re-breed
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon May 26, 2014 6:38 pm

I think 5IV is fine even for the mixed attacking set.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon May 26, 2014 8:54 pm

W.M.D.C.P.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Tue May 27, 2014 10:39 am

It's still 2 against 2...this is moving no where...

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Tue May 27, 2014 10:43 am

Dragon-Flower wrote:
It's still 2 against 2...this is moving no where...

I think a well structured poll would be the best option in a case like this, or just breeding whatever one you want because discussion didn't help (thought this is probably frowned upon...)
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Tue May 27, 2014 10:51 am

I'll chime in. Flamethrower looks good in theory, I've never actually used it. 85 special attack is actually pretty good. But if it doesn't work for people, I'll yield to them. But just looking at the thing, 85 special attack seems like it would be a good thing.

And don't worry too much about a 6 IV of you don't want.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Tue May 27, 2014 11:03 am

I vote Naughty because its physical movepool is terrible (Play Rough and some normal moves...).

It's 3-2 now, so you can start breeding the Naughtly set Wink

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Tue May 27, 2014 11:05 am

Mademoiselle C wrote:
I vote Naughty because its physical movepool is terrible (Play Rough and some normal moves...).

It's 3-2 now, so you can start breeding the Naughtly set Wink

But it as "In Progress" now to lock in the vote, so that it doesn't go back to 3-3
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Tue May 27, 2014 12:07 pm

The Naughty Set it is Very Happy Give me a little while since i already have some good parents! Also would people like a Premier Ball or normal Pokeball?

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Tue May 27, 2014 12:53 pm

Any ball is fine with me. Mark it as In Progress

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Thu May 29, 2014 11:37 am

This Swirlix refuses to come out genetically superior dammit! Come on you 6IV cake!

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sat May 31, 2014 9:09 pm

The 6IV Cake is Born Alas! *Cough cough* I'm not very good with my French but: 'JE SUIS ENFIN LIBRE'!


If that was correct then i get a cookie no matter what.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sat May 31, 2014 9:14 pm

Dragon-Flower wrote:
The 6IV Cake is Born Alas! *Cough cough* I'm not very good with my French but: 'JE SUIS ENFIN LIBRE'!


If that was correct then i get a cookie no matter what.

I think its correct, but I don't know a ton of French.... however, in celebration I say we eat cake! The inferior reject cakes produced during the breeding of this will do mwahahahahaha
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:43 am

Correct Dragon. Nicely done. And nicely done Zoid on the cake reference.

Laissez-les manger le gateau!

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:30 pm

Never have i ever been so enraged in my life at one time ;w;




Sweet Veil

Back to breeding ;w; (I feel so stupid now *sigh*)

Guess i should have checked the ability before posting and making myself look stupid lol.

I wonder what i do with Carbink 0.o
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:42 pm

Bunselpower wrote:
Correct Dragon. Nicely done. And nicely done Zoid on the cake reference.

Laissez-les manger le gateau!

Actually, it's qu'ils mangent de la brioche. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:45 pm

French eases my shame lol

Je suis very stupid Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:48 pm

Hi dragon-flower! I realized it was you on the Gogoat Express thread. You're a cloner too right? Because I can also hand over the ones I've already finished for this project. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:49 pm

bash678 wrote:
Hi dragon-flower! I realized it was you on the Gogoat Express thread. You're a cloner too right? Because I can also hand over the ones I've already finished for this project. Smile

Yeah I am Very Happy if you want you can send over the bred Pokemon during the trade after i finish your request?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:51 pm

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bash678 wrote:
Hi dragon-flower! I realized it was you on the Gogoat Express thread. You're a cloner too right? Because I can also hand over the ones I've already finished for this project. Smile

Yeah I am :Dif you want you can send over the bred Pokemon during the trade after i finish your request?

Sure. Smile I'm online now. Sorry, I had to log out earlier to eat dinner.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:56 pm

Also, no need to worry about Payment Very Happy i can do it for free.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:00 pm

Dragon-Flower wrote:
Also, no need to worry about Payment Very Happy i can do it for free.

Are you sure? thanks. I have four pokés to hand out: Skrelp with Black Sludge, Croagunk with Life Orb, Nidoran-M with Moon Stone, and Nidoran-F with Moon Stone.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:02 pm

Also, do you need the Roselia and Chatot back?
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:04 pm

I don't need them back Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:13 pm

Thanks Dragon-Flower. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:24 pm

Dragon-Flower wrote:
Never have i ever been so enraged in my life at one time ;w;




Sweet Veil

Back to breeding ;w; (I feel so stupid now *sigh*)

Guess i should have checked the ability before posting and making myself look stupid lol.

I wonder what i do with Carbink 0.o

The cake was a lie the whole time... Sad
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:55 pm

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Bunselpower wrote:
Correct Dragon. Nicely done. And nicely done Zoid on the cake reference.

Laissez-les manger le gateau!

Actually, it's qu'ils mangent de la brioche. Smile

Actually both are wrong. There isn't really any French translation for "let them eat the cake" that would sound good and make perfect sense. But the closest would be "qu'ils mangent le gâteau".

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:22 am

Yeah, I knew le gateau was cake, I tried pulling out my old French for the rest of it, apparently failing. Vocab doesn't fall me, it's the verbs.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:35 am

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bash678 wrote:
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Correct Dragon. Nicely done. And nicely done Zoid on the cake reference.

Laissez-les manger le gateau!

Actually, it's qu'ils mangent de la brioche. Smile

Actually both are wrong. There isn't really any French translation for "let them eat the cake" that would sound good and make perfect sense. But the closest would be "qu'ils mangent le gâteau".

Yeah, because she never actually said it. In the enlightenment era, some philosopher wrote a book and in it he writes that a high-ranking female royal said "qu'ils mangent de la brioche," which was eventually translated into "let them eat cake."

While gâteau is technically the translation for cake, it was clearly meant as a reference to what Marie Antoinette had supposedly said. "Brioche" (literal meaning: bun) was the word originally used.

Also, "du gâteau" if you're using the verb manger.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:00 am

I bet she said it or something to that effect at some point. They just didn't have secret recording devices that could illegally record conversations at that time.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:54 am

And I'm still impressed with myself that people could have any idea what I was talking about. I must remember more French than I thought.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:37 am

Bash, you do realize French is my first language? XD
"du gateau" would be for "let them eat cake"
If you say "let them eat the cake" it means you're talking about one specific cake so it's "le gateau"
Has nothing to do with using the verb manger...

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:08 pm

i feel so dumb a midst these peoples...i said one sentence in french and now zoid has some people arguing over cake...

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:18 pm

I agree. It is Zoid's fault.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:23 pm

Bunselpower wrote:
I agree. It is Zoid's fault.

Nope, I blame Ms. C. She is the one that just had to point out errors! We were so happy when blissfully unaware Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:26 pm

Mademoiselle C wrote:
Bash, you do realize French is my first language? XD
"du gateau" would be for "let them eat cake"
If you say "let them eat the cake" it means you're talking about one specific cake so it's "le gateau"
Has nothing to do with using the verb manger...

Yeah, I know because you are in Montréal. Well, I am Parisian.

I saw it as "let them eat cake" (without the article "the"), which I immediately translated, like a reflex, to "...du gâteau." Obviously, we translated different sentences (the perils of the French language).

Your sentence structure is correct but in the context of the conversation, which was a reference to Marie Antoinette, saying that "...de la brioche" is wrong is just not right.
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:27 pm

You better hope Jack Bauer is around. Your gonna be getting a visit from les habitants soon.

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:28 pm

*takes cover*
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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:29 pm

*puts on assault vest*

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:31 pm

But the assault vest doesn't let you use Defense Curl!

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:34 pm

*GASP*



*cries*

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PostSubject: Re: [Finished] Swirlix   Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:34 pm

No! No Fake Tears either!

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